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Toon
20-01-10, 08:24 PM
My previous car was a Mazda 6 and the climate control on the Insignia works much differently. The Mazda had the fans speed very slow until the engine warmed up and automatically went on full blast until the temperature was met then slowed down again. On the Insignia it just seems a steady flow of air happens. I have changed the settings to low, medium and high default speeds and have found no difference. Am I alone? I do prefer to have it the way the Mazda was.

For the record I have the Elite so have dual zone climate control. I have tried both with the climate control on and off.

Rockh
20-01-10, 09:05 PM
That seems to be the way it works. I tend to turn the temperature up to full and then the fans go to high then after a bit turn the temperature down, the fans do slow a bit but not too much.

Atrix
20-01-10, 09:22 PM
is the button "AUTO" activated?

Toon
21-01-10, 05:21 PM
Yeah I've tried that too :)

thermalactivity
21-01-10, 06:13 PM
is the button "AUTO" activated?

mine works like your mazda used to and i have it on auto with climate on all the time. the fan doesnt seem to be on at all when the car is first started from cold. when the engine warms the fan then kicks in and warms the temperature in the cabin and every now and then it kicks in again to regulate it.....

cerbera147
21-01-10, 09:47 PM
mine works like your mazda used to and i have it on auto with climate on all the time. the fan doesnt seem to be on at all when the car is first started from cold. when the engine warms the fan then kicks in and warms the temperature in the cabin and every now and then it kicks in again to regulate it.....

+1

Mine is similiar to yours thermalactivity :D

I had a Mazda 6 TS [not the new one] and always found myself adjusting the climate controls.

With my Insignia I stick it on auto, set the temperature and it's all good :D For me the Insignia manages this better.

stephen florida
22-01-10, 04:28 AM
With my elite, when in auto and I turn up the temperature to high , the blower kicks in. When I turn it back down to say 22 it stops, that how it should work, but when I turn up the passenger side temperature to high it does not kick in, anyone else got this problem

steve
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sofuse
22-01-10, 07:56 AM
In the climate control section of the Owner's Manual, it states,"For correct operation do not cover the sensor on the instrument panel."

Where is the sensor on the instrument panel?

cerbera147
22-01-10, 08:33 AM
In the climate control section of the Owner's Manual, it states,"For correct operation do not cover the sensor on the instrument panel."

Where is the sensor on the instrument panel?

I'm pretty sure it's the alarm thingy on the centre of the dash near the window. Also controls the automatic lighting :D

mitch1408
22-01-10, 10:36 AM
The automatic lights, wipers etc are controlled by the sensors behind the rear view mirror. The little bubble thing on the dash in the centre has no function apart from flashing the red light to show the alarm is activated.

Rockh
22-01-10, 02:05 PM
The automatic lights, wipers etc are controlled by the sensors behind the rear view mirror. The little bubble thing on the dash in the centre has no function apart from flashing the red light to show the alarm is activated.

Sure on the vec the bubble was part of the CC, something to do with direct sunlight detection so would assume the Insignia is the same.

thermalactivity
22-01-10, 03:16 PM
The automatic lights, wipers etc are controlled by the sensors behind the rear view mirror. The little bubble thing on the dash in the centre has no function apart from flashing the red light to show the alarm is activated.

i dont think the climate control is behind the rear view mirror as i have my road angel professional fitted there and my cc still works :confused:

PRO-INSIGNIA
22-01-10, 03:18 PM
The automatic lights, wipers etc are controlled by the sensors behind the rear view mirror. The little bubble thing on the dash in the centre has no function apart from flashing the red light to show the alarm is activated.

Mitch,

On Insignias with basic mirror (non elite + non AFL + non rain sensor) the light sensor is then in the bubble with the alarm light on the dash.:)

Happy42
22-01-10, 04:15 PM
Hi,

Is your CC programmed to come on at every start as per your last setting in the CC Config.?

I have the elite and have no issues with the CC - works a treat :)

Cheers

cerbera147
22-01-10, 05:03 PM
Mitch,

On Insignias with basic mirror (non elite + non AFL + non rain sensor) the light sensor is then in the bubble with the alarm light on the dash.:)

This is true :D

I have an Exclusiv, basic mirror, and if I cover the bubble on the dash with my hand the lights come on :)

svpworld
22-01-10, 05:30 PM
I have an exclusiv and you can set the max speed of the fan from the config radio menus. Then if the temperature of the car drops the fan comes on faster to bring the temperature up and then settles to an average level (which I think is what you set in the config menu). I think the insignia system varies the temperature of the air to the vents by adjusting the blend of cold and hot air as opposed to just turning the fan slower or faster - this should be the better way of doing it since you always get a constant flow of air through the cabin and the temperature is regulated more smoothly.

If you press AUTO then it turns on the air con and will automatically control which vents are used and fan speed according to the set temperature. The sun sensor (multi zone on elite) will adjust the temperature left and right according to the sun shining through the windscreen, so if its a cold day and cloudy but then the sun suddenly begins to shine at you, the air from the vents will cool to compensate.

You can retain auto control of the fan speed by pressing any of the air direction buttons after in auto mode (and also turn off the air con if you prefer). The fan speed retains auto control unless you adjust it and then it switches to manual control. I think the same happens if you turn off the air con whilst in auto mode and then adjust the fan speed, the air direction control remains in auto.

Have to be honest its not clear in the book, but from experience with the exclusiv single zone system I find the fully auto mode takes longer to warm up the car but provides a more gentle and non obtrusive constant temperature zone in the car. I mostly use semi auto mode so the fan speed is auto but I select the footwell and front air vent buttons and set the temperature to either 22 or 23 deg C and leave the air con turned off. In full auto mode I sometimes need to increase the temperature setting by 1 or 2 deg C as it takes longer to reach a similar temperature in the car. Not sure if the sun sensor works on the single zone system as I havent seen the sun since Ive had the car!

thermalactivity
22-01-10, 05:38 PM
so if i turn the air conditioning to OFF and press AUTO does this mean that the climate control will remain ON :confused: im a bit confused why a car with climate control would also have air conditioning?

svpworld
22-01-10, 06:07 PM
The air con can be turned off to save energy and if its not needed (i.e. cold weather). The system still maintains constant climate control but without additional cooling from the air con, just outside air. You cant have full auto mode with air con off, if you turn off air con button it disables auto mode, at least on mine. However you can still have semi auto mode as the fan speed remains in auto mode as does the air direction. If you then press an air direction button or turn the fan speed knob, the respective function is manually set.... at least that seems how it behaves. The air con is part of the climate control.

thermalactivity
22-01-10, 06:14 PM
thanks svpworld, its a very complex system indeed :confused: though ive kept mine with auto on and air conditioning on and just use the temperature control since i got my car, seems to work well except it does take a while to warm up in the mornings...

mitch1408
23-01-10, 11:23 AM
Sorry for posting up wrong info there guys, was going to quote all the replies letting me know i was wrong but would have been the longest post ever.

svpworld
24-01-10, 06:13 PM
Noticed today on my exclusiv with the climate set to 22 deg C, when the sun came out and shone through the windscreen that the air from the top vents became cooler :-) So I presume even the single climate control system has a sun sensor. It wasnt on full auto mode, just semi auto i.e. air con off, top and foot vent settings turned on, fan on auto mode. Worked really nicely. I guess if it were in fully auto mode it could have gone cooler quicker with the air con enabled...

gmatas
08-04-10, 06:55 PM
Hi all. I'm new in the forum, and I have a Opel Insignia 160CV Diesel with AFL, autolights...etc in Madrid, Spain.

I have a dual zone CC and I have configured the option "put in monozone at start up" and it works, when I modify the temp with my wheel, I modify both zones.

The problem comes when my wife modify her zone, and I want to put in monozone again, it's not possible. the only way is turn off the whole car and turn on again.

Any idea how to do in the correct way? In my previous car (Seat Leon II) was easier, just only press 2 seconds AUTO button to put bizone to monozone control.

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Gabriel